Wednesday, April 20, 2011
Tuesday, May 04, 2010
Proof that there is no god
This article was quoted from: http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/no_god.htm
Introduction
Some people falsely believe that it is impossible to prove the unexistence of anything, but they are wrong. It can, for example, be proved that there is no even prime number greater than two. Other people use to say that there is no way to prove if there is a god or not, or even that we cannot get any knowledge of god (agnosticism). My opinion as a strong atheist, is that we can in fact prove that god does not exist in the physical world. This document is my attempt to do so.
Definition of the word "god"
To prove the non-existence of god we first need to define the word "god". When christians talk about god they mean an almighty being. This, I think, is the only god that holds, since it is the only god that can be logically justified.
I think it makes most sense if god is female, because only women can give life. Something that even people in the Stone Age understood. Later when wars affected the cultural evolution, and men took control of society, god became male, but the female god still lives on in the expression "Mother earth". It should also be pointed out that an omnipotent god must be either androgyne or sexless. However, in most religions god is male so I will refer to god as 'he', 'him' etc.
Some people (Einstein for instance) believe in a god who is not a personal god, but a Spinozan kind of god. I claim that this god is not a god! To say that god is universe - by getting knowledge of the universe we get knowledge of god - is to redefine the meaning of the word god. This has nothing to do with the word god as it was defined by the "primitive" cultures which preceded our present civilization. He can be excluded with Occam's razor, and most important: Such a god does not hear prayers.
If god is not omnipotent there is nothing that prevents him from being a product of the universe. If that is the case, what makes god divine? Then god would only be an alien, a being of matter; probably containing flesh, blood and DNA like all life we know of. Everything god is able to do would be things that human beings also will be able to do, all his knowledge would be knowledge we will also achieve. In fact humans would be gods, which should lead to some strange kind of humanism!
Many people justify their faith with god as an explanation. What is the meaning of life? Where does time and space come from? Who created the physical constants? et cetera. Because we lack knowledge of these things - and maybe never will, since they are questions like "what is the color of a second?" or "how does sound taste?" - god is there as an explanation.
Let's say that god is the meaning of life, what then is the meaning of god? If god has a nature, who created that nature? If god created time and space, how can god exist without it? Since creation is an event in time, how could god create time? and who created god? To answer these questions god must be almighty, or else you can't explain them. In fact you can if you say god stands above time and space and so on (which he indeed does if he is almighty), but to be able to prevent god from being tied to future phenomena, you must give him the quality of omnipotence so he can stand above everything.
The qualities of an omnipotent god
If god is almighty there are several qualities he must have. They are as follows:
- He must know everything. Everything that is, everything that has been and everything that will be. To be able to know everything that will be he must know every position and every momentum of every particle in cosmos (Laplace's "World Spirit").
- He must be worth our worship. A being that is not worth worshipping is no god.
- He must be able to do anything. If there are things that god can't do, he certainly is not omnipotent.
- He must be above time. Something that even St. Augustine deduced. But not only that, god must stand above all possible dimensions.
- He cannot be 'good' or 'evil' or, indeed, have any subjective characteristica. If god is all good, he cannot do evil things and cannot be almighty. Most people would object and say that good can do evil but chooses not to do it. Well, if god is all good he can't choose to do evil things, can he?
The theodicé problem
We also have the theodice problem, stated by David Hume:
If the evil in the world is intended by god he is not good. If it violates his intentions he is not almighty. God can't be both almighty and good. There are many objections to this, but none that holds since god is ultimately responsible for the existence of evil. Besides, if only god can create he must have created evil. If somebody else (the devil) created evil, how can one know that god, and not Satan created the universe?For a good look at the Theodicé problem try The problem of natural evil
Reasons not to believe in god
The ontological evidence against gods
Neccesary a god is a being that is worth worshipping, so if there is no being worth worshipping there cannot be a god.
Not any of the existing religions can provide such a god. How do we know if there are no undiscovered beings worthy our submission? Well if there is a being that has either failed or not tried to communicate with us that being is not worth worshipping either, so the ontological evidence against god holds, even without complete knowledge of the world.
There is a test, based on the ontological evidence against god, that you can do to try the existence of god. Pray, and ask god to provide you with a clear proof for his existence within a week. After that week, if you have got a proof that god exists, send me the evidence. If not, there are only three reasons I can think of that are plausible: (1) God does not exist, (2) God does not want to or (3) God can't give you this evidence. Because of the ontological evidence, alternative (2) and (3) are not worth your worship and thus they equal alternative (1). So if you get no response there is no god.
The meaning of the word existence
What do we mean by existence? The very definition for existence is that a thing is said to exist if it relates in some way to some other thing. That is, things exist in relation to each other. For us, that means that something is part of our system ('The known world'). God is defined to be infinite, in which case it is not possible for there to be anything other than god because "infinite" is all-inclusive. But if there is nothing other than god then either god cannot be said to exist for the reason just explained, or god is the known world, in which case, by definition, god is not a god.
Occam's razor
Occam's razor was formulated by William of Occam (1285-1349) and says: "Non est ponenda pluralites sive necessitate" or in english: "Do not multiply entities unless necessarily". It is a principle for scientific labour which means that one should use a simple explanation with a few explanatory premises before a more complex one.
Let's say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?
God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation. It is impossible to gain information from non-information so God as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.
Some things are impossible to do
There are things that are impossible to do. For example nobody can cover a two-dimensional surface with two-dimensional circles, without making them overlap. It is impossible to add the numbers two and two and get 666. You can not go back in time (without passing an infinite entropy barrier). The number of things that are impossible to do are almost infinite. If god were to be almighty he would be able to do them, but it's impossible to do so.
Some people say that he can only do things that are logically possible to do, but what is? Is it logically possible to walk on water? Is it logically possible to rise from the dead? Is it logically possible to stand above time, space and all other dimensions - and still exist? I'd say that everything which violates the laws of physics are logically impossible and thus omnipotence is logically impossible. Besides if omnipotence is a relative quality there is no way to tell omnipotence from non-omnipotence. For omnipotence to be a valid expression it must be absolute, but we have no objective criteria to measure omnipotence so the word itself is useless.
Omnipotence is impossible due to paradoxes
Another way to disprove the almighty god is that omnipotence leads to paradoxes. Can god make a rock that is too heavy for him to carry? Can god build a wall that even he can't tear down?
Also, if god knows everything, he knows what he will do in the "future" (in any dimension, not necessary the time dimension). He must have known that from the very start of his own existence. Thus god's actions are predestined. God is tied by faith, he has no free will. If god has no free will god is not omnipotent. Another way to put it is that to be able to make plans and decisions one must act over time. If god stands above time he can not do that and has no free will. Indeed, if god stands above all dimensions god is dimensionless - a singularity, nothing, void!
Besides there can exist no free wills at all if god is almighty. If you had a free will, god wouldn't know what you would do tomorrow and wouldn't be omnipotent.
The void creator
If everything must have been created, then god must have been created as well. If god is not created, then everything mustn't have a creator, so why should life or cosmos have one?
Besides this argument has another leap. If everything has a source and god is that source, then god must have existed without it before he created it. So if god created time and space, he must live outside of time and space. Thus he is non-existent. If all life must come from something and that is god, god is not alive and hence non-existent. If moral must come from god, god lacks moral. If logic comes from god, god is illogic. If nature comes from god, god is unnatural. If existence comes from god, god is non-existent. If god is the cause of everything, god is void
We would never notice god
This is not an evidence against god, but rather describes the lack of sense in praying to a god who stands above time.
If god stands above time and created time and space he can not be the first link in a time dependent chain of events. Rather he would affect every step in all chains, and we would only see god in the laws of physics (Davies, 1983, chapter 4). This god is an unnecessary entity to describe the world and should be removed with Occam's razor
If somebody would pray to god and god would listen, the laws would change to achieve the desired result. Thus the world would be different and the prayer would never have been said. Besides god would already (in an "above time" sense of view) know that you would pray, and already have changed the world. Prayers would be totally meaningless. We would already live in the best world possible, and any prayer would be to doubt the wisdom of god.
Even worse: For every prayer said, god has not acted, or else the prayer had been undone. This means that the more people have prayed, the more bad things in the world have persisted. Therefore, the more you pray, the more evil persist (provided god exists and stands above time).
A much better way to change the world is to do it yourself. Then you would know that it was you who made the world better. The effect of prayers are not scientific provable, whilst the effect of actions are. Instead of praying you should set to work at improving your situation. This is what humanism is about.
Nobody really believes in god
Schopenhauer once said something like:
"Man can do anything he wants, but he can not want whatever he wants."
My thesis is that people who claim to believe in god do not really do so. They just wish to believe in god. They somehow feel that their lives are meaningless without god, so they choose to close their eyes to evidence against the existence of god. The christian view is well expressed by Cardinal Ratzinger:
"Religious liberty can not justify freedom for divergence. This freedom does not aim at any freedom relative truth, but concerns the free descicion for a person to, according to his moral inclinations accept the truth." (The times, June 27 1990, p9) [Translated to Swedish in the Swedish version of (Baigenth, Leigh, 1991) and then translated back to english by me]
It's as clear as it can be! For a christian you accept the "truth" according to your moral, and then have to be strong in your faith to keep your believes. You decide a priori what to believe and then try to convince yourself and others that it is true. But theists don't really believe, because to believe something is to take it for true, and just like in Nazareth's song Sold my soul there is no sign of god in the world. When you have the evidence for and against something your sub-conscious works on it and makes a conclusion. The process can't be affected by your will, only delayed or suppressed, which will lead to psychoses, and those are far more common among (catholic) priests than any other group..
I have personal experience of this believing what you want to believe. When I was a child I believed in a lot of crazy things. I thought my stuffed animals were intelligent. I believed in Santa Claus. I thought there were monsters under my bed at night. I even believed in god after I heard some of the tales from the old testament. Then I became older and realized that these things weren't true. When I look back I don't understand how I could believe in them, it must have been that I wanted to do so. (Except for the monsters, which had to do with fear of the dark)
When many religious people are confronted with criticism of their religion they convert to atheism or agnosticism. Examples of people who became critical to the dogmas of christianity are Charles Darwin (Darwin, 1958), Dan Barker (Barker, 19??), Ernest Renan plus many former "Catholic modernists" in the 19th century such as Alfred Loisy and Antonio Fogazzaro (Baigenth, Leigh, 1991). The Catholic modernism evolved in the late 19th century and was banned in 1907 by the Vatican (Baigenth, Leigh, 1991). These people are to me clear evidence that an enlightened person will after considering the facts, reject christianity and other religions that contain deities.
Note: This is not the "Plead to authority" fallacy. I'm talking people here, who were trying to prove the existence of god and turned atheists. They did not want to do this, but had to after reading a lot of books and doing a lot of thinking on the subject.
Epilogue
I have tried to define the only god that can be philosophically justified and show some examples why this god cannot exist. After reading this document you may object and say that god is beyond human understanding and can't be defined in scientific terms. This is the view of agnosticism.
If god is so mysterious, how can we know anything about him? Through the Bible? How do we know that the Bible and not the Koran or the Vedha books, for example, are the words of god? (or the bible if you believe in any of the other two books). Considering the cruelties that have been made in the name of god, how do we know that not all religions are made by Satan?
If there is no way to know this but to trust people who claim they have had "divine experiences" there is no way to tell true from false prophets. One has to give up his free mind and follow the authority of a dictator. Remember also that it is the person making a positive claim who has to prove it.
"I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true." -- Bertrand Russell
"We shall not believe anything unless there is reasonable cause to believe that it is true" -- Ingemar Hedenius
Friday, March 12, 2010
101 Atheist Quotes
- The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality. – George Bernard Shaw
- Faith means not wanting to know what is true. – Friedrich Nietzsche
- I believe in God, only I spell it Nature. – Frank Lloyd Wright
- We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. – Gene Roddenberry
- To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains premature today. - Isaac Asimov
- A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows. – Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)
- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. – Seneca the Younger
- Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. – Anonymous
- Not only is there no god, but try getting a plumber on weekends. – Woody Allen
- If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul. – Isaac Asimov
- Belief in the supernatural reflects a failure of the imagination. – Edward Abbey
- With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. – Steven Weinberg
- I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence. – Doug McLeod
- The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence. – Abu’l‐Ala al Ma’arri
- Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going? – Anonymous
- I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. – Susan B. Anthony
- The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike. – Delos B. McKown
- Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer. – Anonymous
- Atheism leaves a man to sense, to philosophy, to natural piety, to laws, to reputation; all of which may be guides to an outward moral virtue, even if religion vanished; but religious superstition dismounts all these and erects an absolute monarchy in the minds of men. – Francis Bacon
- The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. – Richard Dawkins
- A God who kept tinkering with the universe was absurd; a God who interfered with human freedom and creativity was tyrant. If God is seen as a self in a world of his own, an ego that relates to a thought, a cause separate from its effect. he becomes a being, not Being itself. An omnipotent, all‐knowing tyrant is not so different from earthly dictators who make everything and everybody mere cogs in the machine which they controlled. An atheism that rejects such a God is amply justified. – Karen Armstrong
- It is not as in the Bible, that God created man in his own image. But, on the contrary, man created God in his own image. – Ludwig Feuerbach
- People ask me what I think about that woman priest thing. What, a woman priest? Women priests. Great, great. Now there’s priests of both sexes I don’t listen to. – Bill Hicks
- All the biblical miracles will at last disappear with the progress of science. – Matthew Arnold
- Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence. – Anonymous
- Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain and presumptuous desire for a second one. – Richard Dawkins
- What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. – Christopher Hitchens
- In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point. – Friedrich Nietzsche
- It will yet be the proud boast of women that they never contributed a line to the Bible. – George W. Foote
- On the first day, man created God. – Anonymous
- I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.– Stephen Roberts
- You do not need the Bible to justify love, but no better tool has been invented to justify hate.– Richard A. Weatherwax
- What’s “God”? Well, you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God’s the guy that ignores you. – Steve Buscemi (From the movie “The Island”)
- As far as I can tell from studying the scriptures, all you do in heaven is pretty much just sit around all day and praise the Lord. I don’t know about you, but I think that after the first, oh, I don’t know, 50,000,000 years of that I’d start to get a little bored. – Rick Reynolds
- Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish. – Anonymous
- Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color. – Don Hirschberg
- God should be executed for crimes against humanity. – Bryan Emmanuel Gutierrez
- To say that atheism requires faith is as dim-witted as saying that disbelief in pixies or leprechauns takes faith. Even if Einstein himself told me there was an elf on my shoulder, I would still ask for proof and I wouldn’t be wrong to ask. – Geoff Mather
- I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. – Mark Twain
- Of all religions the Christian is without doubt the one which should inspire tolerance most, although up to now the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men. – Voltaire
- And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence. – Bertrand Russell
- Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? – Epicurus
- I’m a polyatheist – there are many gods I don’t believe in. – Dan Fouts
- If it turns out that there is a God, I don’t think that he’s evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he’s an underachiever. – Woody Allen
- A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it. – David Stevens
- Men rarely (if ever) manage to dream up a God superior to themselves. Most Gods have the manners and morals of a spoiled child. – Robert A Heinlein
- I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing. – Douglas Adams
- It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. – Mark Twain
- He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. – William Drummond
- Remember, Jesus would rather constantly shame gays than let orphans have a family. – Steven Colbert
- Which is it, is man one of God’s blunders or is God one of man’s? – Friedrich Nietzsche
- Religion does three things quite effectively: Divides people, Controls people, Deludes people. – Carlespie Mary Alice McKinney
- Religion has caused more misery to all of mankind in every stage of human history than any other single idea. – Anonymous
- When a man is freed of religion, he has a better chance to live a normal and wholesome life. – Sigmund Freud
- They felt that science would be corrosive to religious belief and they were worried about it. Damn it, I think they were right. It is corrosive to religious belief and it’s a good thing. – Steven Weinberg
- Take from the church the miraculous, the supernatural, the incomprehensible, the unreasonable, the impossible, the unknowable, the absurd, and nothing but a vacuum remains. – Robert G. Ingersoll
- History teaches us that no other cause has brought more death than the word of god. – Giulian Buzila
- Atheism is a non-prophet organization. – George Carlin
- We are all atheists about most of the gods that societies have ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further. – Richard Dawkins
- A believer states everything must have a creator but fail to say how he was created. – Anonymous
- “There are no atheists in foxholes” isn’t an argument against atheism, it’s an argument against foxholes. – James Morrow
- People will then often say, ‘But surely it’s better to remain an Agnostic just in case?’ This, to me, suggests such a level of silliness and muddle that I usually edge out of the conversation rather than get sucked into it. (If it turns out that I’ve been wrong all along, and there is in fact a god, and if it further turned out that this kind of legalistic, cross-your-fingers-behind-your-back, Clintonian hair-splitting impressed him, then I think I would choose not to worship him anyway.)– Douglas Adams
- Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for Atheism ever conceived. – Isaac Asimov
- If all the Christians who have called other Christians “not really a Christian” were to vanish, there’d be no Christians left. – Anonymous
- An atheist is a man who has no invisible means of support. – John Buchan
- Gods dont kill people. People with Gods kill people. – David Viaene
- If God were suddenly condemned to live the life which He has inflicted upon men, He would kill Himself. – Alexandre Dumas
- Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make when in the presence of religious dogma. – Sam Harris
- I don’t believe in God because I don’t believe in Mother Goose – Clarence Darrow
- No philosophy, no religion, has ever brought so glad a message to the world as this good news of Atheism. – Annie Wood Besant
- I refuse to believe in a god who is the primary cause of conflict in the world, preaches racism, sexism, homophobia, and ignorance, and then sends me to hell if I’m ‘bad’. – Mike Fuhrman
- Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. – Frater Ravus
- Believing there is no God gives me more room for belief in family, people, love, truth, beauty, sex, Jell-o, and all the other things I can prove and that make this life the best life I will ever have.– Penn Jillette
- Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power but absolute power is corrupt only in the hands of the absolutely faithful. – Anonymous
- Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense. – Chapman Cohen
- The inspiration of the bible depends on the ignorance of the person who reads it. – Robert G. Ingersoll
- When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. – Robert Pirsig
- I wonder who got the shit job of scouring the planet for the 15000 species of butterfly or the 8800 species of ant they eventually took on board Noah’s Ark. But at least we got that magical rainbow for all their trouble. – Azura Skye
- I have no need for religion, I have a conscience. – Anonymous
- Man has always required an explanation for all of those things in the world he did not understand. If an explanation was not available, he created one. – Jim Crawford
- I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. – Richard Dawkins
- What has been Christianity’s fruits? Superstition, Bigotry and Persecution. – James Madison
- The characters and events depicted in the damn bible are fictitious. Any similarity to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. – Penn and Teller
- If god is the alpha and the omega. The begining and the end, knows what has passed and what is to come, like it states in the bible, why do people pray and think it will make any difference. – Mark Fairclough
- The finality of death is the coldest truth one must face. Religion makes the perfect distraction.– Anonymous
- Religion is the opiate of the masses. – Karl Marx
- If God created the world, then who created god? and who created whoever created god? So somewhere along the line something had to just be there. So why can’t we just skip the idea of god and go straight to earth? – Ryan Hanson
- If we expect God to subscribe to one religion at the exclusion of all the others, then we should expect damnation as a matter of chance. This should give Christians pause when expounding their religious beliefs, but it does not. – Sam Harris
- Atheists will celebrate life, while you’re in church celebrating death. – Anonymous
- Animals do not have gods, they are smarter than that. – Ronnie Snow
- I have observed that the world has suffered far less from ignorance than from pretensions to knowledge. It is not skeptics or explorers but fanatics and ideologues who menace decency and progress. No agnostic ever burned anyone at the stake or tortured a pagan, a heretic, or an unbeliever. – Daniel Boorstin
- I have never seen the slightest scientific proof of the religious ideas of heaven and hell, of future life for individuals, or of a personal God. So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake… Religion is all bunk. – Thomas Edison
- Fundamentalism, of any type, due to its prerequisite lack of intelligent thought, could prove to be the worst weapon of mass destruction, of all. – David J. Constable
- To really be free, You need to be free in the mind. – Alexander Loutsis
- Most religions prophecy the end of the world and then consistently work together to ensure that these prophecies come true. – Anonymous
- Jesus hardly made the greatest sacrifice. He knew he would be resurrected anyway. – Anonymous
- Religion is like a virus that affects the behaviour of its host in such a way as to propagate itself further. – Jack Pritchard
- Religions are like pills, which must be swallowed whole without chewing. – Anonymous
- Today’s religion will be the future’s mythology. Both believed at one time by many; but proved wrong by the clever. – Steven Crocker
- The Bible – A Fairytale book of rules brainwashing millions. Obliviously used to help create war, kill, hate, judge and discriminate. – Anonymous
- Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? – Douglas Adams
Friday, September 11, 2009
After reading some responses from my dear readers, this post will be as a quick response to the comments made through out the articles of this blog.
One of the readers commented by expressing his views about the link between quantum physics and the supernatural, and the probability of other realms existing out side of our existence. He also argues that i should not be narrow minded to the point were i rule out that possibility.
In response I would like to say that in the wacky world of quantum physics; Every thing seems to be possible and impossible at the same time, to Quote a great mind, Albert Einstein once said when he was trying to explain Quantum Physics in a Nutt-Shell he said "If you think you understand Quantum Physics, Then you don't understand Quantum Physics" What Einstein was trying to say is that Quantum Physics is an extremely vast science that we are barely capable of harnessing the feed back that it gives back to our basic minds, Quantum Physics talks about extra dimensions and higher and lower dimensions, and invisible matter ans anti matter to the point it leaves scientists baffled.
Having said that, Yes Due to the higher dimensions and the possibility of parallel universes, there could be realms out side of our existence, My argument is not about possibilities of other realms existing or not existing. I apologize if i haven't made this point clear enough in my previous posts, unfortunately I haven't spoken about Quantum Physics enough to make a clear cut case earlier.
My argument to religious people is as follows;
- What makes you so sure that those existences out side of our universe is the realm of God?
- Have you been to a higher dimension to see this for your self, and bring back un-refutable evidence from that higher dimension?
- And if you're not capable of traveling through worm holes, have you sent a space probe on your behalf, out of fear of being ripped apart by massive black hole's gravitational madness?
- Why is it Allah who resides in the higher dimensions, not Buddha?
- Why is it Yahweh who resides in the higher dimensions, not Zeus?
- Why is it Krishna who resides in the higher dimensions, not The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
(A friendly reminder, telling me that it is written in the bible, Quraan, is not proof, it is just your word against other words that claim their Gods exist in that very same higher dimension that you claim for your God)
The reason why i think Religious people are narrow minded is because they feel the need to narrow the whole existence so that it comfortably fits in the palm of God's hand. Because a religious person has no problem imagining different scenarios of endless possibilities as long as there is God at the end of each scenario, while other scenarios that does not have God at the end of it is considered crack-put science.
Basing my belief on hard evidence is the only reason preventing me from making the wrong decisions in life, it also prevents me from falling pray to people who use religion for their personal financial or political gain.
I have faith in this chair that I'm sitting on right now, because i can sit on it confidently knowing that it is supporting my weigh and that it will not break and make me hit my ass on the ground. I have more faith in this chair than i do in any God described or passed on from ancient literature.
Is God testing my faith?
You claim that your God is all knowing, he can see in to the future, this means that he knows in advance the results of the test of faith, therefor there is no need to conduct this test of faith because the results are already known to him. I will use the same analogy that used long time ago in this blog, which is:
Suppose i ask you to grab a rock and throw it as hard as you can at your neighbor's glass window.
I'm sure that you won't do as i say, because you already know in advance that by throwing that rock at that window will cause the window to break, and it will get you in trouble with your neighbor.
Now if we apply that same analogy to the reason why God created humans (supposing that there is a god) God knows in advance that there will be atheists whom will die not believing in his existence, and also knowing in advance that those Atheists will burn in hell, yet he still goes forward with his plan, and creates humans, This can only mean one thing, that God wants us Atheists to fry in his hell, and still dare to call him self a loving God.
This is just one aspect of the great conflicts in religion, and yet religious people decide to turn a blind eye, and keep believing Myths. and call those Myths science facts, when it is has nothing to do with science.
Saturday, April 18, 2009
Islam of Hatred
Any way, the focused hate on Islam is not a virtue that only Atheists have, I would say this without having to look at any statistics or having to collect any anthropological demographics I would confidently assume that not just Atheists hate Islam, 99% of non Muslims share the same hate whether its direct or indirect hatred, the hate is there.
Now after reading up to here and your thinking to your self "but i have a Muslim friend and he seems pretty cool, so therefor you are wrong about Muslims". Then I should tell you that you're wrong, having Muslim "cool" friends doesn't buy any redemption for Islam. What I'm trying to say here is that the only reasonable justification that your Muslim friend is nice to you; is because he's acting according to what I would describe as "Moral Evolution". A modern person who is Muslim or a Christian or from any of the Biblical religions are classified in to 3 categories the first category is the aggressive (extreme) second is mild, and the third category is passive (which is more like an agnostic disposition, where a passive would say "maybe shit happens maybe it doesn't but just to be on the safe side, I'll keep holding on to my faith")
Those three categories are based on how it's corespondents will follow their scripture, so if we take the aggressive category for an instance, Muslims who fall under that category follow every word of the scripture (The Holly Quran) and they are willing to go the distance to obey every word they read, like bombing a building or a plane, or killing non-believers, or caricaturists illustrating sarcastic depictions of Muhammad or God for that matter. I'm not saying or implying that an aggressive Muslim is unable to tell the difference between good and evil. What Im saying is that an aggressive Muslim is too devout and obedient to scripture to the extent that when he is confronted with the choice of choosing between good or evil, their choice is purely based on what they read from scripture, therefor their personal decisions and opinions are irrelevant, If the scripture tells them to do something evil, they would know right away that it is evil and they shouldn't do it, but they would come to a realization that their opinions have no value next to God's grand plan. Not to mention that outside motivation that people like those receive from figures of authority in their community, so when in doubt regarding making a choice between good and evil, they will find their community making that choice for them according to scripture as well. This is why you would find most of the aggressive Muslims living in Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia, or Iran or Afghanistan, the environment provided in those countries grants a fertile soil to grow aggressiveness and ideological extremism.
The second category which is the mild one, people who fall under that category reside in countries that house a more tolerant environment, where people's opinions are not constantly observed under a microscope which allows room to breath and enables a person to make some of his/her own decisions. A Mild Muslim wouldn't necessarily blow him self up to satisfy his God, but when they feel they are threatened by another religion or secularism they will go out in protest, and maybe just maybe one or two of them could do something stupid like throwing stones at an Israeli embassy to express their hatred and anger.
Third category for the passive Muslims are for the Muslims who mainly reside in developed countries that allow freedom of speech and all other kinds of freedoms such as the United States, Scandinavian Countries or Western Europe in general. Most passive Muslims are leaning towards agnosticism and are apologists for what they hear about what aggressive Muslims do in their free countries. and they always have the time to come up with justifications to validate their religion, most of those Muslims are people who haven't even the slightest clue about their religion, because they tend to get confused between the sense of morality that they picked up and have grown under in developed countries. So what they do is they return to scripture and start cherry picking things that they find valid according to what they've learned from their free western culture, and they impose those ideas on us and present them as Islamic teachings.
Now back to our main topic, and while keeping the above in mind, I have to stress out one last point regarding hate speeches, as an ex-Muslim and as an Atheist still hiding in the closet, I've heared and seen more than my fair share of hate speeches by Muslim clerics, Imams, scholars, all directed towards other religions and towards non-believers. The hatred speeches theme has been going on since the Islam started, It has been washing people's minds and making people live under the illusion that all the world is conspiring and plotting for their destruction, I find that a normal thing to do, in order for a religion to sustain it self it needs man power and it needs more will power and more and more financial power, the easiest way to gain those three important powers is by promoting Islamic hate speech and cutting off freedom of speech so that there won't be other opinions that contradict with the hate speeches given in Islamic educational religious institutions and in the media. So what do you get after over 1400 years of exposing people's minds to those hate speeches, the only logical conclusion would be, that you a get a whole nation filled with hate and rage and anger towards the other religions that they were told to hate, and those hateful and angry and aggressive people will devote not just their lives, but also their finances and their children so they can empower their Islamic country even more.
These are some of the many many videos about Islamic hate speech that you can find on youtube and all over the internet.
After every things that religion in general and Islam in particular has said and done over thousands of years, After waging wars, after shedding so much blood, after so many persecutions of gays and lesbians and Jews and Christians and after all the brain washing and promoting hate, and after all of these years of causing so much pain and so much more suffering some ignorant Muslims asks me why my hate is focused on Muslims? I should be laughing at the irony of this question, but i find my self unable to laugh because it so much more than that, if it was just irony i would laugh at the question, but there are other factors such as sheer ignorance, narrow mindedness that just hits me where it hurts, and nothing hurts me more than to see some one so narrow minded and more ignorant and full of hate who is in a position of power and that his ignorant opinions and decisions that are backed up by his brainwashed followers dictate how genuine people of true knowledge and wisdom are silenced, and mentally abused.
We all brought up to believe that we are special in one way or another, and we feel very easily offended when we're called ignorant, but as nation that suffers from being one of the poorest nations of the world, we need to ask our selves that there is something wrong with us, there is something wrong in us that is getting in the way of our prosperity and advancement and tolerance. Long time ago we thought the earth was at the center of the universe because it is so special to us, that delusion of greatness made us come up with the wrong answers to explain every thing around us. Until we find a way to get over ourselves and get over our selflessness, we will never be able to see who is truly great minded. We have to realize that people of great intelligence are very rare gems that needs to be given all the recognition that they need to reach their full potential, and lead us to the Utopia that we've been dreaming about since we evolved in to thinking beings. Religion is not the answer to the problems of this day and age, because its fueled by hate, and because religion can't coexist with other religions, therefor it will only cause more conflicts and wars till one of the religions prevails and dominates the whole world. I can't imagine how a terrible world this would become if it was ruled by one religious authority, what makes our world so special to us is the diversity of its cultures and its people. having one religion ruling that whole planet would kill each person's identity then we would all be nothing more than zombies unable to think for our selves not even able to make our decisions or having our own opinions without having to seek the approval of our leaders.
Monday, January 12, 2009
In responce to the Comments
In reply to all the friendly comments I have received from the very friendly Muslims who are wishing that I repent from using my brain or suffer the burning hell fire that "Allah" has prepared for the likes of me.
From a very long time ago, I’m not worried or afraid of God, or Allah, or Jehovah, or Zeus, or any other God for that matter, those are the wonderful consequences that follow the disbelief of a common delusion, which eventually gives you more room to think about a far more productive things in life without having to waste time in worshipping and fearing something that only used to exist in my mind. The things that really scare me are the people who believe in God and the destructiveness that their blind belief has instilled in them. I’ve came to realize this when I’ve seen how Muslims respond to common sense.
Therefore I ask any Muslim to provide physical evidence that proves the existence of God, by physical evidence I mean physical measurable viewable and touchable. In other words, let your God show his /her/it’s face who or whatever he is, then I will believe you, and I promise I will be a good Muslim, till you can prove that, I ask you to keep quiet, and I ask you not to waste your time trying to convince me with the nonsense written in your Qur’an. If you think that your Qur’an holds information about future events, then I ask you to recheck your Qur’an and please refer to the explanations that your fake prophet used to explain his fake Qur’an that he himself stole half of it from the Jews and Christians, and I’m positively sure that you will find that what you call description of future events in the Qur’an are nothing but circumstantial descriptions of what ever happened in those ancient days. Qur’an says nothing about planet earth being round; in fact it says that earth was flat so that it can sustain life. I can’t imagine anything more ignorant that that. This is not very surprising and seems very reasonable for that day and age.
Your Qur’an holds no miracles in its text or in any of its pages what so ever, if you think it does. Then I’m very sorry to tell you that you’re diluting yourself and filling your mind with the rubbish that you hear coming from your cleric’s mouth at every Friday prayer.
Mohammed was as ignorant as any other typical man at his day and age, he had no special revelations nor did any god of any kind spoke to him nor was any wisdom imparted unto him in way or method.
In fact, as I have mentioned in a previous post; that Mohammed spoke out of sheer ignorance when his followers asked him questions related to creation or question related to the environment that surrounded them. Such examples can be found as follows:
This is a page that I have scanned from a book called “Al-Bedayah wal Nehayah” “The beginning and the End” this books describes events from the moment of creation up to the time of Mohammed from an Islamic perspective.
The picture mentions a verse in the Qur’an that translates to:
“It is Allah who has created seven heavens and of the earth the like thereof (i.e. seven). His command descends between them (heavens and earth), that you may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah surrounds all things in His knowledge.”
Mohammed explained this verse to his followers by saying that the distance between the surface of the earth to the clouds is the distance of a 500 years walk, then another 7 skies each on top of the other, each sky is a 500 year walk from bottom to top, after that there you will find the throne of God.
Luckily for us Atheists and non Atheists we have Telescopes that enables us to see millions of light years in to space, but so far no self respecting scientist has reported spotting any throne of God floating about gracefully and peacefully in deep space, even though the equipment that we have today and satellites and the Hubble telescope allows us to see much more deeper in to space than Mohammed had described in his ignorant statement. Not to mention the simple fact that we all know and are very well aware of that the clouds are not a 500 years walk away from the surface of the earth.
Furthermore, there are other things that Muslims seem to toss around as explained scientific miracles of Islam that has been mentioned in their Qur’an before even having those discoveries made in our recent age, one of those claims revolve around a the verse illustrated in this figure 1-2:
The translation of the verse is as follows: “Verily Allah is not ashamed to set forth parable even of a mosquito or so much more when it is bigger (or less when it is smaller) than it.”
Muslims claim by this verse that God has said that there are certain microscopic creatures that live on the back of a mosquito, which scientists have discovered recently while it has been mentioned in the Qur’an for more than 1400 year ago.
But what the above verse really means is; That God is not ashamed to set parables from the smallest of living creatures (mosquitoes) and above (larger living creatures) The verse is very simple but some Muslim Clerics are willing to go the extra mile by reading too much in to the lines of the Qur’an so they can twist around the words and come up with some sort of a miracle from within the lines. While the fact of the matter is there are no miracles.
The contradictions and the scientific errors are endless in the Qur’an, yet I still find Muslims turning a blind eye to the obviousness of the truth, and still blindly believing in the delusions that Mohammed has instilled in their forefathers.